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Fate
Dec 9, 2013 2:07:35 GMT
Post by Muhammad Fareed on Dec 9, 2013 2:07:35 GMT
This book has been getting interesting, since the start and I think that is has a lot to do with fate. The fact that "Chick," tried to kill himself twice, out or misery, and still survived tells something very important to the reader. It shows the reader that the world gave Charlie another chance at his life, to make amends and learn the true meaning of life. Charlie is bound to learn to something that will change the course of his life through some key events. The reappearing of Charlie's mother, Posey, even though she died, also reveals to the reader that Charlie is going to experience a tremendous change in his life that will change his point of view for his personality and character.
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Fate
Dec 12, 2013 0:01:48 GMT
Post by Irving Reyes on Dec 12, 2013 0:01:48 GMT
Agreeing with Muhammad , So far through out this book fate can be seen having a big influence. For example like Muhammad said the fact that Chick is unable and fails at killing himself lets the reader know that Chick was meant to have a more meaningful life. Chick seeing his mom can also be related to fate because she shows up at the moment that he needs her the most. One other thing that can be connected to fate might be the fact that he wasn't invited to the wedding. If he was invited to the wedding he probably wouldn't be having this life changing experience that hes having right now because he probably wouldn't have tried to commit suicide if he was invited.
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Fate
Dec 12, 2013 23:29:10 GMT
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Post by Lauren Schmitt on Dec 12, 2013 23:29:10 GMT
On the topic of fate, it can be said that Chick's visits to his hometown, to his house, to his mother, were meant to be. Obviously, Chick isn't where he wishes he was in his life, and his loneliness and feeling of abandonment led him to try (and fail) to commit suicide. Being with his Mother and all of her wisdom and grace may perhaps turn his life around for the better. His visit with his Mom could ultimately be his wake-up call, telling him that his life is NOT over, and that he can turn it around! Her spirit is definitely with him in this time of depression, and I cannot wait to see how he finds his moment of clarity.
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Dec 12, 2013 23:42:37 GMT
Post by Joey Messina on Dec 12, 2013 23:42:37 GMT
I agree with both Muhammad and Irving on the presence of fate within the book. Chick should not have survived the car crash and jumping off the water tower, as the odds of a person surviving either event are very slim to none. Not only does chick survive, the only thing that he really received from the suicide attempts are bruises. This leads to the idea that fate had its' input on the events. According to fate Chick was not supposed to die at that time. Concerning the presence of Chick's mother, I believe that it is his mind reminding him of the teachings of his mother; Chick wants to be the person his mother would want him to be. Additionally, I believe that the vision of Chick's mom will cause Chick to have an epiphany, and a change in perspective that will ultimately make him a better person. Looking ahead I predict that Chick will become closer with his daughter and son-in-law and prove to them that he has become a better person.
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Fate
Dec 13, 2013 0:16:54 GMT
Post by Rachel Phillips on Dec 13, 2013 0:16:54 GMT
In this book just within the first few chapters fate had played a major part. First Chick has tried to kill himself twice, and each time he failed. Obviously this was fate, Chick's life was destined for another path than just simple suicide as he had wanted. He migrates to his old home, with memories flooding back from his childhood of his sister, and fights between his father and mother, and issues with having divorced parents how people begin to look at you differently. At his home he finds his dead mother, he's hallucinating her cooking him breakfast and asking him what had happened. I believe the fate of seeing his mother in his house is that it will show him that he needs to be involved in the family he has left. Surviving these suicide attempts is fate that he needs to fix things with his daughter and her new husband.
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Dec 13, 2013 1:15:39 GMT
Post by Zachary Manuel on Dec 13, 2013 1:15:39 GMT
I also agree with Muhammad, in the fact that Chick is seeing his mother for reasons. Due to my knowledge of the writing styles of Mitch Albom, (my experience coming from 5 People you Meet in Heaven,) I believe that Chick's mother is somewhat of a guardian angel, as Eddie was to that little girl at Ruby Pier. Chick's mother knows what Chick has to live for, what mistakes he has made in life, and due to a mother's instincts, she wants to fix Chick's problems. She thinks Chick won't mess up in this next chance he has to rebuild his life, and due to the fact that he was alive when the reporter in the beginning of the story is a sort of proof of my hypothesis.
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Dec 13, 2013 1:49:43 GMT
Post by Jessica Nicholson on Dec 13, 2013 1:49:43 GMT
The idea of fate is very present in this piece of literature. You can see that right from the beginning when Chick fails many times to take his own life. It is there that we see something is destined to happen to him. Fate has brought him back into his hometown and back into his childhood home where his mother stands waiting. But, I think the greater event that is destined to happen somewhere in this book is Chick reuniting with his family. I believe after he has his time with his mother and says his final goodbyes to her he will at last rekindle his relationship with his wife, daughter, and new son-in-law. I believe his mother is going to be leading him in the right direction. He was destined not to die and to see her so she could help him through the very rough time he has been experiencing.
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Dec 13, 2013 2:35:23 GMT
Post by Karol Danowski on Dec 13, 2013 2:35:23 GMT
I completely agree with Muhammad, I think that he was given another chance to rediscover life. Fate brought Chick back to his mothers house and to where he grew up so he can recall his life and reflect on the decisions he made that led to his downfall. I believe that his flashback are his guilt and all the pain and anger that he built up from his childhood and from his failed marriage. His mother was always a soothing and consoling character in his life and she was the only one who really understood his and was able to help him. Charley talks about how after one looses their mother the word mom leaves their vocabulary. For Chick loosing her was a lot more than that, she was very important in his life, she understood him and they were very close. I believe that Chick needs to take his life into his own hands because in the end he doesn't have anyone in his life. He needs to find meaning and a reason to keep going, he needs to find something or someone to fill the void that was created.
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Fate
Dec 13, 2013 16:41:30 GMT
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Post by Michael Pozamantir on Dec 13, 2013 16:41:30 GMT
This book really pulled me in with its first opening chapter and the incredibly sad story of charly. As Charly recollected his life and remembered the people important to him Mitch Album made me feel as if I personally knew Charly and made me want to see him recover. The story's sense of mystery also intrigued me as many questions are still in my head. Is Carl's mother back from the dead? Will he go back to his family that betrayed him? This book just makes me want to read more everyday!
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Dec 17, 2013 11:17:24 GMT
Post by Alexa Wilson on Dec 17, 2013 11:17:24 GMT
Realizing that fate plays a huge role in many pieces of literature, this one in particular is special because it hits close to home for some. Losing a parent in some way shape or form is difficult, and you honestly have no idea what you have until you lose it. Chick attempting to kill himself and failing both times is, hands down, fate doing it's job. To honestly be able to look back at the times she helped and stood up for him, and then all the times that he decided to stay in the shadows and not stand up for his mother is telling me that he has a lot of guilt and anger bottled up inside him, and soon it will result in him bursting.
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Jan 10, 2014 3:28:30 GMT
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Post by Helene D. on Jan 10, 2014 3:28:30 GMT
The entire book seems to be based on fate. Chick completely ruins his life and his relationships with almost everyone. The only way he could survive not only this, but also his two attempted suicides, must be fate. If it isn't fate, then these are a lot of coincidences. I also think it was fate that Charley's mom was still alive and able to help, even though most people presumed her to be dead.
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